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		By: seanvgarner		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-433</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-239&quot;&gt;baloo&lt;/a&gt;.

actually this is false. I am currently in a cohort and I had two classmates over 50. Sadly one of them failed out because his typing speed set him behind on the assessments. (young people have failed out for this same reason). The other classmate over 50 is still on track to graduate successfully. So...check your facts]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-239">baloo</a>.</p>
<p>actually this is false. I am currently in a cohort and I had two classmates over 50. Sadly one of them failed out because his typing speed set him behind on the assessments. (young people have failed out for this same reason). The other classmate over 50 is still on track to graduate successfully. So&#8230;check your facts</p>
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		By: Dima Ivaȵov		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-419</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2016 04:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-418&quot;&gt;saladlamp .&lt;/a&gt;.

why selling your house if you can rent it out? it sounds too dramatic]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-418">saladlamp .</a>.</p>
<p>why selling your house if you can rent it out? it sounds too dramatic</p>
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		By: saladlamp .		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-418</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[saladlamp .]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2016 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t had any good experiences with any interactions I&#039;ve had with bootcamps. I&#039;m beginning to think they are a bunch of b.s., Here&#039;s what happened with app academy.

I sent an email (there are no phone numbers listed on their web site) about visiting the San Francisco campus for a tour, since I would be attending from out of state. I wanted to see where I would be studying, get a feel for the place, meet with an admissions person, and maybe even chat with an instructor. After all, it would be huge investment in time, energy and money to do all the prep work, go through the application process, quit my job, sell my house, and move to another state. After about a week they wrote back saying they don&#039;t give tours until you&#039;ve been accepted into the program, but they&#039;d be happy to answer any questions I have....via email.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had any good experiences with any interactions I&#8217;ve had with bootcamps. I&#8217;m beginning to think they are a bunch of b.s., Here&#8217;s what happened with app academy.</p>
<p>I sent an email (there are no phone numbers listed on their web site) about visiting the San Francisco campus for a tour, since I would be attending from out of state. I wanted to see where I would be studying, get a feel for the place, meet with an admissions person, and maybe even chat with an instructor. After all, it would be huge investment in time, energy and money to do all the prep work, go through the application process, quit my job, sell my house, and move to another state. After about a week they wrote back saying they don&#8217;t give tours until you&#8217;ve been accepted into the program, but they&#8217;d be happy to answer any questions I have&#8230;.via email.</p>
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		By: john		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-347</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2015 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-186&quot;&gt;Gourav Kochhar&lt;/a&gt;.

this guy works for go live labs.....just search his name on linkedin. Stop posting fake reviews]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-186">Gourav Kochhar</a>.</p>
<p>this guy works for go live labs&#8230;..just search his name on linkedin. Stop posting fake reviews</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-284</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-187&quot;&gt;GL&lt;/a&gt;.

Clearly Gourav is not a student because he is pitching his own program. Lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-187">GL</a>.</p>
<p>Clearly Gourav is not a student because he is pitching his own program. Lol</p>
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		By: Will		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-279</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2015 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-142&quot;&gt;AlanS&lt;/a&gt;.

I took the course back in July 2013 and as far as I&#039;m aware, my classmates and I all received our deposits back at the end of the course as agreed upon. If you don&#039;t mind me asking, have you personally taken the course? I had an great experience at AA - I learned more in just the first month than I had on my own in a year, and I had no prior programming experience other than dabbling with online tutorials. I can confidently say that attending AA has changed my life. And I can&#039;t speak for the present, but during my class, the two lead instructors were not former students. 

In response to your claim that they hire on the majority of the graduates to boost placement - I can attest that this is untrue. In my cohort, the top performing student was offered a teaching assistant position, while everyone else (including myself) participated in the standard job search. I graduated in the bottom half of my class, but I did land a job I was happy with after a 2-month search. Granted, it was not an easy process, and there were many rejections along the way, but what do you expect? 

Not trying to be confrontational here, but from your post it sounds like you have not done your research. I am happy to share more details about my experience; if anyone is interested just send me a message.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-142">AlanS</a>.</p>
<p>I took the course back in July 2013 and as far as I&#8217;m aware, my classmates and I all received our deposits back at the end of the course as agreed upon. If you don&#8217;t mind me asking, have you personally taken the course? I had an great experience at AA &#8211; I learned more in just the first month than I had on my own in a year, and I had no prior programming experience other than dabbling with online tutorials. I can confidently say that attending AA has changed my life. And I can&#8217;t speak for the present, but during my class, the two lead instructors were not former students. </p>
<p>In response to your claim that they hire on the majority of the graduates to boost placement &#8211; I can attest that this is untrue. In my cohort, the top performing student was offered a teaching assistant position, while everyone else (including myself) participated in the standard job search. I graduated in the bottom half of my class, but I did land a job I was happy with after a 2-month search. Granted, it was not an easy process, and there were many rejections along the way, but what do you expect? </p>
<p>Not trying to be confrontational here, but from your post it sounds like you have not done your research. I am happy to share more details about my experience; if anyone is interested just send me a message.</p>
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		By: Mel		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve spent a ton of time (maybe 100 hours) doing App Academy assignments.  Each time they send a new assignment, they say the next step will be an interview.  When I submit the challenge or assignment, I get invited to take another challenge or do another assignment.  I bailed after completing two challenges, doing all of the prep work associated with those challenges, all of the coderbytes for good measure, buying and reading the two required books, completing the various required online tutorials (Ruby Monk and Ruby in 100 Minutes) and completing all of the Test First Ruby problems and bonuses...which all passed the tests and were refactored to be as clear and tight as possible.  After doing all of this and being told that the next step would be a Skype interview just to make sure everything was in order, I got....not an invite to a Skype interview, but an invite to another online coding challenge as well as an e-mail saying they&#039;d be in touch soon with next steps...though no one ever was in touch with any other next steps.  The program is too big of life commitment to keep pursuing with an outfit that is either tragically disorganized, or that is just stringing me along in case someone better doesn&#039;t crop up.  

The upside is that I learned a ton doing the assignments.  Also, I still believe in the concept and know someone who is happily employed and feels professionally well served by her time at App Academy.  I hope they can come up with clearer and more honest admissions process that still stacks their deck with qualified people who are good tuition risks.  Knowing that they boot people from the program for failing tests makes the moving goal post during the admission process even more of a concern.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spent a ton of time (maybe 100 hours) doing App Academy assignments.  Each time they send a new assignment, they say the next step will be an interview.  When I submit the challenge or assignment, I get invited to take another challenge or do another assignment.  I bailed after completing two challenges, doing all of the prep work associated with those challenges, all of the coderbytes for good measure, buying and reading the two required books, completing the various required online tutorials (Ruby Monk and Ruby in 100 Minutes) and completing all of the Test First Ruby problems and bonuses&#8230;which all passed the tests and were refactored to be as clear and tight as possible.  After doing all of this and being told that the next step would be a Skype interview just to make sure everything was in order, I got&#8230;.not an invite to a Skype interview, but an invite to another online coding challenge as well as an e-mail saying they&#8217;d be in touch soon with next steps&#8230;though no one ever was in touch with any other next steps.  The program is too big of life commitment to keep pursuing with an outfit that is either tragically disorganized, or that is just stringing me along in case someone better doesn&#8217;t crop up.  </p>
<p>The upside is that I learned a ton doing the assignments.  Also, I still believe in the concept and know someone who is happily employed and feels professionally well served by her time at App Academy.  I hope they can come up with clearer and more honest admissions process that still stacks their deck with qualified people who are good tuition risks.  Knowing that they boot people from the program for failing tests makes the moving goal post during the admission process even more of a concern.</p>
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		By: baloo		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baloo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re close to or over 40, don&#039;t put your real age on the application form. At least they&#039;ve now made this insulting question optional. 


App Academy summarily rejects the non-young with some boilerplate email about how you don&#039;t know enough Ruby/Rails to attend (uh, yeah, that&#039;s I&#039;m going to a bootcamp--to learn more). Meanwhile, younger applicants knowing far less are accepted.


Don&#039;t bother with these jerks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re close to or over 40, don&#8217;t put your real age on the application form. At least they&#8217;ve now made this insulting question optional. </p>
<p>App Academy summarily rejects the non-young with some boilerplate email about how you don&#8217;t know enough Ruby/Rails to attend (uh, yeah, that&#8217;s I&#8217;m going to a bootcamp&#8211;to learn more). Meanwhile, younger applicants knowing far less are accepted.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother with these jerks.</p>
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		By: Gregory T. Cerchione		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-231</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory T. Cerchione]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They require a deposit upfront which they neglect to mention anywhere on their website. The deposit is variable. A 5k deposit will get you an employment contract where you agree to give App Academy 18% of your first year&#039;s salary. Alternatively, a 4k deposit will yield to them 20% of your first year&#039;s salary, a 3k deposit 23%, and a 2k deposit will let them take 25% of your first year&#039;s salary. They will not accept any deposit lower than 2k.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They require a deposit upfront which they neglect to mention anywhere on their website. The deposit is variable. A 5k deposit will get you an employment contract where you agree to give App Academy 18% of your first year&#8217;s salary. Alternatively, a 4k deposit will yield to them 20% of your first year&#8217;s salary, a 3k deposit 23%, and a 2k deposit will let them take 25% of your first year&#8217;s salary. They will not accept any deposit lower than 2k.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-224</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67&quot;&gt;Monk-e-man&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you mean you had no development experience at all, or no web development experience? I find it very hard to believe that anyone could get in with no development experience. Were you a CS grad student with no web dev experience?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67">Monk-e-man</a>.</p>
<p>Do you mean you had no development experience at all, or no web development experience? I find it very hard to believe that anyone could get in with no development experience. Were you a CS grad student with no web dev experience?</p>
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		By: Bill_in_MView		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-188</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill_in_MView]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2014 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-186&quot;&gt;Gourav Kochhar&lt;/a&gt;.

I think a company named &quot;People Vendor LLC&quot; has the same address as Go-Live Labs (121 West Washington Ave., Suite 219, Sunnyvale, CA, 94086).

http://www.linkedin.com/in/gouravkochhar (the URL ends with &quot;gouravkochhar&quot;) has this in the overview section of someone named Gourav Kochhar:
Sales, Research &#038; Marketing at Go-Live Labs
SEM/SMM - Executive at People Vendor LLC

Is that person &quot;Gourav Kochhar&quot; you? Are you in sales and marketing at Go-Live Labs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-186">Gourav Kochhar</a>.</p>
<p>I think a company named &#8220;People Vendor LLC&#8221; has the same address as Go-Live Labs (121 West Washington Ave., Suite 219, Sunnyvale, CA, 94086).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/gouravkochhar" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.linkedin.com/in/gouravkochhar</a> (the URL ends with &#8220;gouravkochhar&#8221;) has this in the overview section of someone named Gourav Kochhar:<br />
Sales, Research &amp; Marketing at Go-Live Labs<br />
SEM/SMM &#8211; Executive at People Vendor LLC</p>
<p>Is that person &#8220;Gourav Kochhar&#8221; you? Are you in sales and marketing at Go-Live Labs?</p>
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		By: GL		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-187</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2014 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-186&quot;&gt;Gourav Kochhar&lt;/a&gt;.

Gourav Kochhar, after your training, Go-Live Labs will send you to different companies to write software for those companies, right?

Suppose the economy is slow, and there&#039;s not enough work to go around. Will your get paid only for the times that you are writing software for other companies?  Or will you get paid a regular paycheck, whether or not you are currently writing software for a company?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-186">Gourav Kochhar</a>.</p>
<p>Gourav Kochhar, after your training, Go-Live Labs will send you to different companies to write software for those companies, right?</p>
<p>Suppose the economy is slow, and there&#8217;s not enough work to go around. Will your get paid only for the times that you are writing software for other companies?  Or will you get paid a regular paycheck, whether or not you are currently writing software for a company?</p>
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		By: Gourav Kochhar		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-186</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gourav Kochhar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is another really good training center to learn everything in UI. Its called
Go-Live Labs, They actually turned out to be an amazing deal for me.
They offered me Free – Yes FREE!!!! 12 weeks programs – The most complete program I
could ever dream of. 

The catch? You have to work with them in a consulting role for one year. Or you pay
$8000 in 4 installments if you leave and join a full time position.  Compare that to others now!
They offered me a great salary + H1B Sponsorship (at No Cost unlike some of these
Indian staffing companies who ask candidates to pay for legal fees).
I recently interviewed with them and got in. Check out their website. Not only do
they give one on one attention to all of us in class (small class of 6) but
also have a career department that actively circulates our resumes and gets us
interviews. The previous batch got some awesome job offers since they knew all
the latest JavaScript Frameworks like Angular JS, Backbone JS &#038; Core OO
JS. 

There is an interview but it’s mostly to assess how seriously you are pursuing a
career in UI/UX and if you know basic programming. They demand minimum 40 hours
in their classroom and Lab per week. They do 3 classes of 4 hours each per
week. 

They are still growing so you may not have heard of it. I am learning so much! They are in Sunnyvale downtown on Murphy Street with a nice Training and Lab space. Check them out here http://GoLiveLabs.io .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another really good training center to learn everything in UI. Its called<br />
Go-Live Labs, They actually turned out to be an amazing deal for me.<br />
They offered me Free – Yes FREE!!!! 12 weeks programs – The most complete program I<br />
could ever dream of. </p>
<p>The catch? You have to work with them in a consulting role for one year. Or you pay<br />
$8000 in 4 installments if you leave and join a full time position.  Compare that to others now!<br />
They offered me a great salary + H1B Sponsorship (at No Cost unlike some of these<br />
Indian staffing companies who ask candidates to pay for legal fees).<br />
I recently interviewed with them and got in. Check out their website. Not only do<br />
they give one on one attention to all of us in class (small class of 6) but<br />
also have a career department that actively circulates our resumes and gets us<br />
interviews. The previous batch got some awesome job offers since they knew all<br />
the latest JavaScript Frameworks like Angular JS, Backbone JS &amp; Core OO<br />
JS. </p>
<p>There is an interview but it’s mostly to assess how seriously you are pursuing a<br />
career in UI/UX and if you know basic programming. They demand minimum 40 hours<br />
in their classroom and Lab per week. They do 3 classes of 4 hours each per<br />
week. </p>
<p>They are still growing so you may not have heard of it. I am learning so much! They are in Sunnyvale downtown on Murphy Street with a nice Training and Lab space. Check them out here <a href="http://GoLiveLabs.io" rel="nofollow ugc">http://GoLiveLabs.io</a> .</p>
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		By: KamJos		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KamJos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67&quot;&gt;Monk-e-man&lt;/a&gt;.

Was this in New York or San Francisco?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67">Monk-e-man</a>.</p>
<p>Was this in New York or San Francisco?</p>
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		By: KamJos		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KamJos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-2&quot;&gt;beyonsense&lt;/a&gt;.

What were the math challenges like?]]></description>
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<p>What were the math challenges like?</p>
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		By: AlanS		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-142</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2013 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Totally a scam school that promises to teach web application development utilizing Ruby on Rails.  They are supposedly very selective but that is only due to policy of accepting candidates that already know the material and that will pay a hefty percentage of introductory salary (if hired).  The school is very unorganized and completely administered by &#039;student workers&#039;.  Class time is nonexistent and 98% of this &#039;learning&#039; time is also hosted by arrogant students from the previous term that refuse to answer questions or the assist current students.  

Another major issue is their claim to &quot;only pay us if you find a job as a developer after the program.&quot; This cleaver marketing verbiage is simply an outright lie.  They require all student to pay about $3k to $4k up front which they will not return unless you complete the course to their satisfaction, get a job in the area, and pay them nearly 20% of your salary for a year or so.  If all these criteria are met then after two years they will refund your deposit with no interest. (To date no students have been refunded their deposit)

It seems that this academy may be nothing more than a way for former hedge fund analyst Kush Patel dupe eager students into giving funds interest free to scam artist Kush Patel.  The FTC and IRS should investigate this new twist on the ponzi scheme.

Don&#039;t Fall for this scheme and their inflated placement rate they simply hire on the majority of graduates for a few months to boost the reported placement percentage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally a scam school that promises to teach web application development utilizing Ruby on Rails.  They are supposedly very selective but that is only due to policy of accepting candidates that already know the material and that will pay a hefty percentage of introductory salary (if hired).  The school is very unorganized and completely administered by &#8216;student workers&#8217;.  Class time is nonexistent and 98% of this &#8216;learning&#8217; time is also hosted by arrogant students from the previous term that refuse to answer questions or the assist current students.  </p>
<p>Another major issue is their claim to &#8220;only pay us if you find a job as a developer after the program.&#8221; This cleaver marketing verbiage is simply an outright lie.  They require all student to pay about $3k to $4k up front which they will not return unless you complete the course to their satisfaction, get a job in the area, and pay them nearly 20% of your salary for a year or so.  If all these criteria are met then after two years they will refund your deposit with no interest. (To date no students have been refunded their deposit)</p>
<p>It seems that this academy may be nothing more than a way for former hedge fund analyst Kush Patel dupe eager students into giving funds interest free to scam artist Kush Patel.  The FTC and IRS should investigate this new twist on the ponzi scheme.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t Fall for this scheme and their inflated placement rate they simply hire on the majority of graduates for a few months to boost the reported placement percentage.</p>
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		By: Jennifer Brown		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-71</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67&quot;&gt;Monk-e-man&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Monk-e-man! Glad to hear you got in and had the job offers, where did you end up working? Also, do they provide housing? Where do you stay for 9 weeks if you live several states away? Need to know before I apply.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67">Monk-e-man</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Monk-e-man! Glad to hear you got in and had the job offers, where did you end up working? Also, do they provide housing? Where do you stay for 9 weeks if you live several states away? Need to know before I apply.</p>
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		By: Monk-e-man		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-68</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monk-e-man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67&quot;&gt;Monk-e-man&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops, I made a typo:  I got twelve interviews and four offers within 2 weeks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67">Monk-e-man</a>.</p>
<p>Oops, I made a typo:  I got twelve interviews and four offers within 2 weeks.</p>
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		By: Monk-e-man		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-67</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monk-e-man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I came into App Academy, with zero web development experience.  The only web programming I&#039;ve ever done was some basic HTML for a static web page I made as a graduate student instructor.

After I graduated from App Academy, I got twelve interviews and landed four offers within 12 weeks: 80k, 100k, 100k, and 105k.  So from my single data point, I consider the App Academy a resounding success.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came into App Academy, with zero web development experience.  The only web programming I&#8217;ve ever done was some basic HTML for a static web page I made as a graduate student instructor.</p>
<p>After I graduated from App Academy, I got twelve interviews and landed four offers within 12 weeks: 80k, 100k, 100k, and 105k.  So from my single data point, I consider the App Academy a resounding success.</p>
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		By: HISTORY		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-55</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HISTORY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone else notice that there is no phone numbers to call this business?? STRANGE VERY STRANGE..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else notice that there is no phone numbers to call this business?? STRANGE VERY STRANGE..</p>
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		By: blah		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-46</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a $5000 refund for accepting a job from one of their partners. See Tuition section at http://www.appacademy.io/#p-program]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a $5000 refund for accepting a job from one of their partners. See Tuition section at <a href="http://www.appacademy.io/#p-program" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.appacademy.io/#p-program</a></p>
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		By: diddy		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-44</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[diddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-2&quot;&gt;beyonsense&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the site and review :). Just wondering, what was the last interview like? What kind of problems did they ask? Was it anything like the prep-work?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-2">beyonsense</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the site and review :). Just wondering, what was the last interview like? What kind of problems did they ask? Was it anything like the prep-work?</p>
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		By: beyonsense		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-8</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beyonsense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-7&quot;&gt;dr_zaius&lt;/a&gt;.

great idea! will try to work on it tomorrow.  It is really easy to do through mindmeister.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-7">dr_zaius</a>.</p>
<p>great idea! will try to work on it tomorrow.  It is really easy to do through mindmeister.com</p>
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		By: dr_zaius		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-7</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dr_zaius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 07:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fun marketing idea: draw up a diagram outlining the relationships between all the programming bootcamps.

Digging around on LinkedIn, I&#039;m pretty sure App Academy, Hackbright, and Catalyst Class were all founded by former Dev Bootcamp students.  Both the CEO and COO of Catalyst were students in Dev Bootcamp&#039;s first cohort, I think.

These people were all students in Dev Bootcamp&#039;s first cohort:

Kush Patel (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kush-patel/4b/99/349)
Tony Phillips (http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybphillips)
Douglas Calhoun (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/douglas-calhoun/44/998/500)
David Phillips (http://www.linkedin.com/in/davjphillips)

Dave Hoover, one of Dev Bootcamp&#039;s co-founders, used to be affiliated with Starter League, too.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/redsquirrel

I found all the above by rifling through LinkedIn and googling the people&#039;s names.  Couldn&#039;t find anything else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun marketing idea: draw up a diagram outlining the relationships between all the programming bootcamps.</p>
<p>Digging around on LinkedIn, I&#8217;m pretty sure App Academy, Hackbright, and Catalyst Class were all founded by former Dev Bootcamp students.  Both the CEO and COO of Catalyst were students in Dev Bootcamp&#8217;s first cohort, I think.</p>
<p>These people were all students in Dev Bootcamp&#8217;s first cohort:</p>
<p>Kush Patel (<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kush-patel/4b/99/349" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kush-patel/4b/99/349</a>)<br />
Tony Phillips (<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybphillips" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybphillips</a>)<br />
Douglas Calhoun (<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/douglas-calhoun/44/998/500" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/douglas-calhoun/44/998/500</a>)<br />
David Phillips (<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/davjphillips" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.linkedin.com/in/davjphillips</a>)</p>
<p>Dave Hoover, one of Dev Bootcamp&#8217;s co-founders, used to be affiliated with Starter League, too.<br />
<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/redsquirrel" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.linkedin.com/in/redsquirrel</a></p>
<p>I found all the above by rifling through LinkedIn and googling the people&#8217;s names.  Couldn&#8217;t find anything else.</p>
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		By: beyonsense		</title>
		<link>https://www.bootcamps.in/san-francisco/appacademy-io/#comment-2</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beyonsense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1. If you are not a programmer already, do not waste your time applying to appacademy.io because you won&#039;t get in.  I really liked their approach to tuition, but it just doesn&#039;t make sense for them to accept someone who is a beginner. If the person won&#039;t get a job they are not going to get paid. 

2. Personal story:
10/24/12 I applied  for 7/1/13 session (and 2 more after that)
10/26/12 submitted second part of application form
10/30/12 got invitation to a coding challenge. it contained 9 chapter study material
11/5/12 completed a math challenge (2 problems)  and tried to take a coding challenge (6 problems. completed only 1)
11/6/12 received an email:
&quot;Thanks very much for applying to App Academy. After reviewing your
application, we think you might be a good fit.
One thing we did notice from your coding test is that you may not
have a lot of prior experience programming; many of the students we
have accepted in the past did not. However, we would like you to
complete some additional programming prepwork for us to review
before we offer to accept you into the program.
The prepwork we&#039;d like you to complete is the same that we give all
accepted students; you may access it here. The
prepwork constitutes a basic introduction to programming designed to
be accessible to everyone. It contains some selected readings to
bring you up to speed on Ruby, plus some exercises for you to
complete. All told, we expect the prepwork to take about 15hrs.
The prepwork details contain information about submitting your
exercises. When you complete the prepwork successfully, our final
step is to conduct a brief, last-check interview. After this, we
will be able to make a final decision on your application within
24hrs.
There is no deadline for the prepwork; you may complete it and take
the second coding exercise whenever you like.
We believe that the time you invest in learning Ruby will be time
well spent: the prep work constitutes a self-contained introductory
course in programming, giving you skills that you will be able to
apply to other parts of your life.&quot;

Prep work had 13 problems, each problem had 2-8 sub problems.  Since i didn&#039;t have a lot of programming experience it took me way more than 15 hours to complete this prepwork. 

12/17/12 I submitted my prepwork
12/18/12 Received email that my prepwork was accepted.
12/21/12  Had my 19min  interview that contained coding challenge: 2 simple problems/ Completed it. 
12/23/12 Received my rejection letter. 
&quot;Thanks very much for applying to App Academy. I am sorry to write
that we are unable to accept your application. I wish I were writing
to report a different decision, but the applicant pool for these
cycles was very strong, and there were many talented applicants who
we didn&#039;t have space to admit.
Applicants sometimes ask if there was a reason why we didn&#039;t accept
their application. In truth, there is often no specific reason. The
reality is that we are space-constrained and have to turn away many
qualified people.
Please don&#039;t take our decision personally, particularly because we
know we make mistakes. We also know that many applicants we were
unable to admit have what it takes to learn software development; it
is a certainty that many will find successful careers in software
development.
Please accept our best wishes.&quot;

12/26/12 Created this site ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. If you are not a programmer already, do not waste your time applying to appacademy.io because you won&#8217;t get in.  I really liked their approach to tuition, but it just doesn&#8217;t make sense for them to accept someone who is a beginner. If the person won&#8217;t get a job they are not going to get paid. </p>
<p>2. Personal story:<br />
10/24/12 I applied  for 7/1/13 session (and 2 more after that)<br />
10/26/12 submitted second part of application form<br />
10/30/12 got invitation to a coding challenge. it contained 9 chapter study material<br />
11/5/12 completed a math challenge (2 problems)  and tried to take a coding challenge (6 problems. completed only 1)<br />
11/6/12 received an email:<br />
&#8220;Thanks very much for applying to App Academy. After reviewing your<br />
application, we think you might be a good fit.<br />
One thing we did notice from your coding test is that you may not<br />
have a lot of prior experience programming; many of the students we<br />
have accepted in the past did not. However, we would like you to<br />
complete some additional programming prepwork for us to review<br />
before we offer to accept you into the program.<br />
The prepwork we&#8217;d like you to complete is the same that we give all<br />
accepted students; you may access it here. The<br />
prepwork constitutes a basic introduction to programming designed to<br />
be accessible to everyone. It contains some selected readings to<br />
bring you up to speed on Ruby, plus some exercises for you to<br />
complete. All told, we expect the prepwork to take about 15hrs.<br />
The prepwork details contain information about submitting your<br />
exercises. When you complete the prepwork successfully, our final<br />
step is to conduct a brief, last-check interview. After this, we<br />
will be able to make a final decision on your application within<br />
24hrs.<br />
There is no deadline for the prepwork; you may complete it and take<br />
the second coding exercise whenever you like.<br />
We believe that the time you invest in learning Ruby will be time<br />
well spent: the prep work constitutes a self-contained introductory<br />
course in programming, giving you skills that you will be able to<br />
apply to other parts of your life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Prep work had 13 problems, each problem had 2-8 sub problems.  Since i didn&#8217;t have a lot of programming experience it took me way more than 15 hours to complete this prepwork. </p>
<p>12/17/12 I submitted my prepwork<br />
12/18/12 Received email that my prepwork was accepted.<br />
12/21/12  Had my 19min  interview that contained coding challenge: 2 simple problems/ Completed it.<br />
12/23/12 Received my rejection letter.<br />
&#8220;Thanks very much for applying to App Academy. I am sorry to write<br />
that we are unable to accept your application. I wish I were writing<br />
to report a different decision, but the applicant pool for these<br />
cycles was very strong, and there were many talented applicants who<br />
we didn&#8217;t have space to admit.<br />
Applicants sometimes ask if there was a reason why we didn&#8217;t accept<br />
their application. In truth, there is often no specific reason. The<br />
reality is that we are space-constrained and have to turn away many<br />
qualified people.<br />
Please don&#8217;t take our decision personally, particularly because we<br />
know we make mistakes. We also know that many applicants we were<br />
unable to admit have what it takes to learn software development; it<br />
is a certainty that many will find successful careers in software<br />
development.<br />
Please accept our best wishes.&#8221;</p>
<p>12/26/12 Created this site 😉</p>
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